Hey, Briselli! Are you speaking in the aggregate!?
In episode 21 we are now old enough to gamble. We celecbrate by performing an experiment: let us find out if we can make our guest cry out in frustration as we attempt to summarize her work. Fun! Join us as we finally finish the damn bridge.
The intro was recorded on July 17. It is the most recent part of this particular episdoe.
Also… It’s James Wynn (English faculty at CMU who teaches courses on rhetoric.), or it’s
David the Rhetoritician. Which rhetor do you prefer?
Here’s
Waingarten, by the way. (I know I've mentioned him to you before. But you really ought to check him out.)
Now. Ahem. This outro might be a bit confusing. We recorded it on June 22, which was after publishing the first of the Jen Briselli’s, but before publishing parts 2 and 3. The outros to 2 and 3 we recorded after this one. It was back when we still thought this segment was going to be done much sooner than it was. If you're confused... well... so are we.
"…the Fisher paper is a little theoretical and kind of strange but one of my favorites."
"…the Miller paper—I think I referenced this in the show too—is where she talked about scientists using ethos as logos."
"…Oreskes writes beautifully on this topic pretty much any time she weighs in. Her book “Merchants of Doubt” is a great account of how a few people can create controversy and denial when the will is there¬—though that's not representative of every possible “science controversy.” Sometimes controversy and “denial” is manufactured (and this books show exactly how that can happen), but I'd caution people not to assume this is how it all takes place. Mostly, it's just humans being social creatures and falling victim to motivated reasoning/identity-protective cognition, without the added ingredient of someone deliberately preying on that fact."
(And we hit this one last episode, but it’s worth linking again.) The recent paper with the geoengineering vs. taxation framing that makes Hierarchical-Individualists accept climate change risk.
Our thanks again to Jen. She took our little conversation about the Debunking Handbook and blew it into a summer-long conversation. She's been a great guest and good sport for the past two months. Let us know your thoughts, listener, and pose any questions you have for her in the comments. We are happy to bring her back again some time.
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